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The topic has come up a few times about members wanting to change to LED bulbs and I received an email from AutoBulbsDirect, a company I have bought bulbs from in the past, that linked to an explanation of the issue so thought it worth sharing.

 

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A very good article. I also think it is time for the authorities looked into led rear lights, even those that are oem, being behind a car with led brake lights constantly lit whilst stationary on an unlit road is not pleasant and affects night vision.

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A very good article. I also think it is time for the authorities looked into led rear lights, even those that are oem, being behind a car with led brake lights constantly lit whilst stationary on an unlit road is not pleasant and affects night vision.
On the Yeti with LED rear lights option it's only the tail lights that are LED, all other rear bulbs are halogen.
 

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A very good article. I also think it is time for the authorities looked into led rear lights, even those that are oem, being behind a car with led brake lights constantly lit whilst stationary on an unlit road is not pleasant and affects night vision.

Probably an addition for the library.
Agreed on all counts!

Even just sat at urban traffic lights behind someone who has brake lights on continuously can be blinding.
My third biggest "pet hate" as a driver, after:
a) Deliberately using high-intensity rear fog lights in the rain.
b) Hogging the middle lane(s) of three or four lane motorway, when the left lane is clear.

Do I get the impression that gearboxes like DSG and its equivalents tend to encourage (some) drivers to sit at the junction with the foot brake on, and the box in drive? To hold the clutches open? Or is it just drivers of sludge box, torque converter autos? Or even manual box car drivers who also hold the clutch pedal down? Have I also read somewhere that the more recent iterations of DSG though, extinguish the high level LEDs in that scenario?

Never noticed a Yeti doing either (a) or (b), interestingly?

I'll say very little on what I think about the increasing popularity of "lane keep assist" systems having the effect of encouraging (b). As this is a thread about LEDs.
 

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With the DSG and electric handbrake (Karoq) when halted the footbrake autoholds the car and the brake lights remain on. If the auto stop is on and the engine cuts, I don’t know whether the brake lights go out. I’l check using shop windows and report back. Depending on the result, when I next have a long wait eg at the swing bridge, I may go into N and use the handbrake.
 
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With the DSG and electric handbrake (Karoq) when halted the footbrake autoholds the car and the brake lights remain on. If the auto stop is on and the engine cuts, I don’t know whether the brake lights go out. I’l check using shop windows and report back. Depending on the result, when I next have a long wait eg at the swing bridge, I may go into N and use the handbrake.
We are in the same dilemma that shows in the remark "Does my bum look big in this?" You need a helper on a bicycle and set of carefully arranged signals.
 

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A very good article. I also think it is time for the authorities looked into led rear lights, even those that are oem, being behind a car with led brake lights constantly lit whilst stationary on an unlit road is not pleasant and affects night vision.

Probably an addition for the library.
It's even worse when you have to contend with high-intensity brake lights and the driver behind you has front fogs switched on. Amazing how many reach for the front fogs switch at the first bit of mist but fail to use them as they should.
 

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We are in the same dilemma that shows in the remark "Does my bum look big in this?" You need a helper on a bicycle and set of carefully arranged signals.
I've checked and the rear brake lights stay on even when the auto stop operates and the engine cuts, so from now on it's N and handbrake for long waits. Mrs J says that as long as Lycra is involved, she'd be happy to look at photos and tell you whether your bum looks big. :oops:;)
 

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It's a shame there's no legal and reliable way of upgrading to LED headlights, it would be nice to have the extra brightness and I'm sure it's technically possible to do a proper job of it.

I've upgraded to some brighter Philips halogen bulbs, but they're of marginal benefit and come with an inherently reduced lifetime.
 

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Whenever I bought extra bright headlight bulbs I waited until they were on offer and bought two sets. Then when one failed I had a replacement that was the same colour temperature etc.
 

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I used to have a pair of Hella H1 headlamp main beam bulbs that were (ahem...) 100% higher wattage than standard, but gave something over 40% more light. In all the right places. They were extremely well built and lasted so long they migrated with me from car to car, at least three times over a 15+year period. Only stopped using them because subsequent cars:
a) didn't use H1 fittings
b) did have acrylic front covers and reflectors, that the heat from the bulbs was capable of softening if not melting.
Worked perfectly fine with glass lensed lights though. If stationary in wet weather you would see distinct columns of steam rising off the lenses. Didn't burn the eyes of other road users though as only ever used for main beam. Often "off-road".
 

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I had a set of Hella Rallye 1000's that used H1 bulbs.

Even better I got them for nothing the year that the FIA banned the Group B rally cars. I was servicing for the Skoda works team on the RAC Rally that year and they came off John Haugland's car. At the end of the event we stripped the Estelles and were each allowed to keep some mementos. Mine were the lights and a Hella navigators map light. Lovely lights!

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And I think I know who you mean, from the other thread, Henry.
 
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I used to have some rather nice Lucas square eights, now they sit in a drawer in the garage in pristine condition complete with their covers.
 

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I used to have some rather nice Lucas square eights, now they sit in a drawer in the garage in pristine condition complete with their covers.
They are worth a LOT of money. Highly sought after in the classic world.
 

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Sounds like my drawer of treasure might actually have some treasure in it!! Along with a vacuum gauge, battery condition indicator, Jaeger electric clock, Volvo eight track stereo radio etc. etc.
 

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Gauges depend on who made them and how old they are, and what car they came out of, so the Jaeger clock might be worth something. I sold an old French vacuum gauge for £25 and we weren't even sure it worked.
 

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Lucas "Square 8" lamps in as new condition:-
£75 - £100 each, (or in one case "buy one, get one free"):
The bit about "These were fitted to Ford Escort rally cars" should be followed by: "but only by boy racers who were too dumb to realise that the works and any proper Escort rally cars employed a quartet of circular Cibie "Oscar" driving lamps." (Limited to 1 pair on later Road Rallies).


8-track tape players:- £30-£100 depending on condition.
(I like the one that is advertised as "complete with Johnny Cash tape". I.E. Its jammed in there and can't be removed without destroying tape or player?)
 

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From memory my square eights have a different "eye" to show if they are lit whilst the cover is on, mine have small round inserts rather than the large square ones.
 

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On the Yeti with LED rear lights option it's only the tail lights that are LED, all other rear bulbs are halogen.
The tail and brake lights are LED.

Indicator, reverse light and fog are tungsten bulb.

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