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I expect that many of us on here are entitled to tow a trailer without having had to do the test introduced in 1997.

Just for information then, that test is now being scrapped.

New rules for towing a trailer or caravan
 

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This will make my daughter happy, as she would like a caravan but can't tow anything that is big enough on her present license.
On the down side expect to see values of caravans and tow cars going up once this is brought in (as if they aren't high enough already).
 

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Lost of businesses specialising in trailer courses were emailed yesterday to say all their booked in tests are cancelled and that they no longer have a business. :(
 
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This will make my daughter happy, as she would like a caravan but can't tow anything that is big enough on her present license.
On the down side expect to see values of caravans and tow cars going up once this is brought in (as if they aren't high enough already).
My daughter has just said the same thing. She is now looking for a small van to put the motorbike in and a caravan to tow,
And the value of caravans has already gone through the roof. I dropped in to Salop Leisure the other day and they are crying out for 'vans and are offering silly money for second hand vans to sell on, but then admit they can't get them serviced quickly enough to get them out of the door.
 

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And, presumably, an increased number of towing vehicles on the roads, being driven by people who don't know how to do so correctly?
I suspect the main reason behind the change is that this is a quick way to reduce demand on the finite resource that is driving standards examiners.
It's a lot quicker than training new examiners, and the service is stretched beyond capacity at the moment.

The decision-makers will have data from insurance companies and police traffic divisions on how much difference to road safety this change might make, and have evidently prioritised other things in this instance.

There's already an awful lot of people (i.e. most of those who passed their car test before 1997) who have no formal training in towing.
I am included in that number.
 

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And, presumably, an increased number of towing vehicles on the roads, being driven by people who don't know how to do so correctly?
I think some of them were on the A303 today, I was overtaken by a couple of caravans whilst traveling at a sat nav indicated 70mph.
 

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I think some of them were on the A303 today, I was overtaken by a couple of caravans whilst traveling at a sat nav indicated 70mph.
I watched one use the outside lane on the M6 for about 3.5 miles earlier this week. Either didn't know the rules, or didn't care.
 

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I used to be an instructor for the Camping and Caravaning Club. I used to run some of their courses they offered to members.

To be honest while the B+E test was worthwhile for hitching up and reversing etc it didn't go far enough for safe loading and towing. Especially where large caravans are concerned.
 
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There is another EU law around the corner, and before you mention Brexit the UK government is likely to enforce it over here. It is for all vehicles to be fitted with speed limiters. I wonder if such a thing would modify its settings when a towbar is attached.
 

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There is another EU law around the corner, and before you mention Brexit the UK government is likely to enforce it over here. It is for all vehicles to be fitted with speed limiters.
 

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There are a huge number of drivers with grandad rights as it stands, most that do tow do so safety, will this law change make all the new ones dangerous, no.
There’s already an even greater number of drivers that have standard licenses, some of these drive like idiots and they’ve been trained, training dose not mean they’ll be safe.
 

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And, presumably, an increased number of towing vehicles on the roads, being driven by people who don't know how to do so correctly?
So have you (if you are old enough to tow without test) ever had training on how to tow? Many have not, me included but i am well able to after towing during work and caravan years ago.
Exactly the same as before now to prior to training and test required to tow, any Johnny driver could jump in anything and off to go, and drive away.
 

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So have you (if you are old enough to tow without test) ever had training on how to tow? Many have not, me included but i am well able to after towing during work and caravan years ago.
Nope, I have never towed. But if I was going to tow, I'd really want some training first. I don't have a clue what weight my vehicles can safely tow, how to safely load a towed vehicle, or what the constraints (in terms of speed or lane usage) are. Those are my known unknowns (which I'm only aware of as I've seen them mentioned on forums, etc). I'm sure that there are plenty of unknown unknowns that I would need to take into consideration before towing on a public road.

And as a non-tower, I'd feel a lot safer on the roads if I knew that those towing vehicles which I encounter are bing driven by people who have had appropriate training in how to tow, and have demonstrated their competence and knowledge by passing a test.
 

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Another known unknown would be how how to reverse a trailer competently. I am regularly surprised how many trailer towers have problems reversing.
 
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And as a non-tower, I'd feel a lot safer on the roads if I knew that those towing vehicles which I encounter are bing driven by people who have had appropriate training in how to tow, and have demonstrated their competence and knowledge by passing a test.
I can tell you the B+E test was insufficient if we are talking about loading and safe towing of caravans. The courses offered by the two big Caravan clubs were far better.
 
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Another known unknown would be how how to reverse a trailer competently. I am regularly surprised how many trailer towers have problems reversing.
Where our caravan is there is a narrow road (job for 2 to pass yet artics & long lorrys get static caravans dow and up road) there are more sites further down, when busy you want to see some of them "TRY" and reverse tourers (or even drive forward on a bend, not in the right position and scraping the back end when it swings round) i have seen countless haveing to un hook the van as it is almost jackknifed or in a position wedged to walls.
 

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I learnt to tow 40ft trailers on private land many years ago, becoming more proficient at reversing than most of the drivers bringing trailers to site.
I still spent some time researching the loading and laws of caravaning before going out on the open road.
My wife did a caravan club course, but still doesn’t feel comfortable towing.
 

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Was the B+E was worthwhile is debatable as you could still use a family saloon to tow a decent sized trailer/small caravan. Still get in a world of trouble towing without B+E test

I'd much rather see compulsory road worthiness checks every couple of years for trailers. I own three trailers and look after mine meticulously but the state of some of the trailers and caravans on the road is appalling.

I've seen trailers and caravans with brake systems that obviously do not work. Tyres that are decades old and perished. Box trailers made from car axles and bits of wood etc, etc.

In Germany I believe trailers are subject to testing and have their own registration.
 
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