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Reliability of the DSG gearbox

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#1 ·
Hi, I'm new to the club. I already have a mark I TT with a DSG gearbox but it has very low mileage as we use it as a long distance driver. I'm considering getting a 170 ps yeti with a DSG gearbox as I think the manual gearbox is a bit vague. Has anyone got a high mileage yeti like this who could comment on the reliability?

Thanks for the help.
 
#2 ·
The 6 speed wet clutch DSG in the diesel Yeti's seems to be far more reliable than the 7 speed dry clutch DSG in the petrol Yeti's. I have seen numerous cases of high mileage cars with the 6 speed DSG box in and very few of the 7 speed DSG box.

As long as all the correct maintenance is done and you look after it, it should go on for a good few miles!

Edited by: gman88667733
 
#3 ·
Welcome to the forum Charles.
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Depends on what you call high mileage. We have one member with 250,000 and another with 170,000. both manual boxes though think. tells you something about overall reliability though but they are well looked after by the owners. Key factor is whether services have been carries out at required intervals, engine oil changed regularly (every 10k), DSG oil every 40k and assuming a 4X4, haldex every 20K if you follow some recommendations. There has been recent discussion about haldex filter changes too as this is not even recognised as a service item by Skoda VAG.

This thread may help though it's not directly about the DSG. http://www.yetiownersclub.co.uk/forum/older-yetis-with-higher-mileage-things-to-expect_topic5111.html
 
#4 ·
I would be more concerned that a 170ps diesel will have been subjected to the infamous fix.

Personally I wouldn't buy a "fixed" car.

You would perhaps be better going for the later 150ps dsg, Euro 6 so less likely to be impacted by the diesel scare and restrictions on entering cities being planned.

On the Briskoda forum there is tuned 540ps Superb dsg. The gearbox seems quite capable of taking a huge amount of power. The owner did change to special clutch pack later though for dragstrip use.

I have read of a taxi somewhere on 540k miles and original wet clutch dsg box still going strong.

Its the dry clutch ones that I would not consider. They have to wear the clutch plates to change gear and move away as the friction surfaces have to rub together as drive is taken up. Apparently good for about twice the normal life of a manual clutch at say 160k if driven properly, but twice as much to change when needed. However very easy to drive them incorrectly and wear out very early. The ford version in my sons car turned out to be worn out in 20k miles by the first user, a motability car at 3 years old, and had to have the clutch pack changed under warranty.

The wet clutch version however should have virtually no wear as it takes up the drive as the power is transmitted by shear in the oil between the plates. When the plates make contact they should be travelling at the same speed.
 
#5 ·
My Yeti is sitting on 122,000 miles. It had the 'fix' before i purchased it. i have had it remapped, no problems and the DSG box is as smooth as ever. Loving it.
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#7 ·
The TT uses a completely different style of gearbox, but due to the power output it would have to have a wet clutch. The dry clutch is not suitable for more powerful engines as it can't transmit the power reliably for long periods.The fix is the software downgrade to remove the method the manufacturer used to allow the car to detect it was undergoing an emission test. The test used a rolling road, with variable speeds to a set pattern and no steering movement. When it knew it was being tested it used its emission equipment much more aggressively, but did not really use it so in real use. Following the fix it uses the equipment aggressively all the time, often leading to rapid failure of the EGR valve and DPF exhaust, both of which are expensive to replace, and could well fail again after a short period. (EGR = Exhaust Gas Recirculation to send exhaust gasses back to the inlet of the engine and burn it again, often clogging the valve with a sooty oily residue. DPF is the Diesel Particulate Filter, which traps the small particles, burns them off regularly, but once the ash trap is full has to be changed)

If you do a search on the site, there are loads of posts on this and how to find out if your car has had it done. Any car sent to the dealer for servicing will have had it done, unless the owner specifically said no; it will be called a software update with an innocuous name. Any car sold via a Skoda dealer will be done.
It may be possible to go to a specialist and have the car re-mapped to remove this, I am not convinced it totally resets the cat though?

A Euro 6 car, with the adblu tank under the boot floor is not affected by this, using adblu to solve the emissions problem, with much less use of the EGR and DPF. These came out in 2015 but could only be bought in 110ps and 150ps versions, with the 170ps no longer available.
Personally I find the performance from my 150ps entirely adequate; the most powerful car I have ever leased/owned in over 40 years driving



Edited by: ken3966
 
#10 ·
The TT uses a completely different style of gearbox, but due to the power output it would have to have a wet clutch.
I know this is an old thread that has been bought back to life some three years later but.........

The Audi TT is a transverse engined car and did use the DQ250 6 speed wet clutch DSG in most variants until around 2017 when most models moved to the newer 7 speed wet clutch DQ381 which has now totally replaced the DQ250 in all higher torque transverse models across VAG.

It's not about the power though, gearboxes are rated to handle torque. It's the twisting force that shred gearboxes and clutches.

That's why the 180PS 1.8TSi and 1.4TSi twincharge (250NM) could use the DQ200 and why the 140PS 2.0TDi (320NM) got the DQ250.
 
#8 ·
It is worth noting that the 7 speed DSG box in my Yeti is poor. The gear selection is almost never correct (in my opinion) and the car shudders at a high gear at low RPM and also shudders when it tries to creep on anything but dead level or downhill.
I would NOT consider another one and once my warranty runs out, I will be getting rid of it.

I would however, consider the 6 speed DSG Yeti.
My experience with the Yeti hasn't been particularly positive, but I think I've just been unlucky.

A 6 speed DSG non-fixed Yeti will serve you well!
 
#9 ·
It is worth noting that the 7 speed DSG box in my Yeti is poor. The gear selection is almost never correct (in my opinion) and the car shudders at a high gear at low RPM and also shudders when it tries to creep on anything but dead level or downhill.
I would NOT consider another one and once my warranty runs out, I will be getting rid of it.

I would however, consider the 6 speed DSG Yeti.
My experience with the Yeti hasn't been particularly positive, but I think I've just been unlucky.

A 6 speed DSG non-fixed Yeti will serve you well!
My 2012 1.2 TSi DSG had 2 x major DSG repairs inc. flywheel at 28,000 and 35,000 mi; my 2017 1.2 TSi DSG also had 2 x major DSG/flywheel repairs at 11,000 and 13,000 mi - only drove it 4,000 mi total - trend...? Sold it and bought a 16-plate 1.2 manual. Hoping to be luckier with this one...