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Hi everyone .
Has anyone used Shell Helix HX8 ECT 5w-40 Oil in their diesel ?
Regards Trevor.
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I don't think that's a recommended spec for Yeti.
Edit: OK for petrol Yeti's on fixed service intervals but not for diesels.
 
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I can’t find the spec details for Helix HX8 ECT 5w-40 on the Shell website. But the nearest I can find is HX8 without the “ECT” bit. Here: Shell Helix HX8 Synthetic 5W-40

That says it meets VW 502 and 505 specs and ACEA B3. Which are earlier specs than the VW 507, ACEA C3 low SAPS oils needed for the Diesel DPF equipped engines fitted in the Yeti. The oils that meet VW 507 and ACEA C3 all seem to have “Ultra” in the name, rather than HX8. Those also have the ECT addition though.

If that is the same oil you mean Tresim, then I would be quite happy to use it in the naturally aspirated petrol engines as in my daughter’s FIAT 500 and Ford KA ( as Urrell suggested). For the Yeti though I would be a bit sceptical it is a high phosphorous and sulphanated ash oil? That would not be good for the DPF.

UNLESS this is an oil not intended for sale on the UK market, and therefore not listed on the Shell UK web site? AND the “ECT” bit means it IS a low SAPS oil? That might be less worrisome?

What does the label on the back of the pack say about what technical specs it meets?
That label is MUCH more important than the entire run of marketing names on the front. You need VW 507 and ACEA C3. Most oils that meet one of those also achieve the other.
 

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Specifications:
Shell Helix HX8 ECT C3 5w-40 Fully Synthetic Engine Oil

Specifications, Approvals & Recommendations
  • API SN
  • ACEA C3
  • MB-Approval 229.31, 229.51
  • BMW LL-04
  • GM Dexos2
  • Renault RN 0700, 0710
Shell Helix HX8 ECT 5w-30 Fully Synthetic Engine Oil
Is compatible as it is VW 504.00/507.00·
 
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That answers the question nicely. As suspected, the “ECT” designation does convey an ACEA C3 spec that won’t upset the DPF so much. A bit like Mobil 1 with the letters “ESP” added? (“Emission System Protection”). The 5w-40 grade would be a touch higher viscosity at the high temperature end of operating conditions, so might have a very marginal impact on fuel consumption? Otherwise, only the 5w-30 variant fully meets the more comprehensive VW 507 performance standard.

So you pays your money and makes your choice? It’s 50p/litre cheaper from Opie than the Castrol Edge 5w-30 LL that meets VW 507 and was specifically engineered with the Castrol technicians working side by side with VW design and development dept., at the time the Yeti’s Diesel engines were being developed.

I wonder why Opie Oils have it listed, but Shell UK don’t? Speculating, could it be intended for markets other than UK perhaps? Or an “old” formulation stock that Shell no longer choose to actively market here, but used to? Colin (L) might come along and tell us how the Shell psyche works? The fact Opie say they have only 8 packs left supports the “no longer produced” theory? Either way, it adds weight to the adage that “Opie know Oils”. And tells me I should have gone there to research the valuable spec numbers, rather than Shell UK?
 

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Thank you all for your assistance on this .
I have decided to go with Quantum longlife III 5w-30 fully synthetic Oil which is VW 507 rated .
Kind regards Trevor.
 

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I have decided to go with Quantum longlife III 5w-30 fully synthetic Oil which is VW 507 rated .
Good decision Trevor, I would say. (y) Given “Quantum” is VW’s “own label” brand, it should meet their own performance standards of course. Where are you buying from out of interest?

If a fairly new batch of oil packs bearing the Quantum label, the contents will be Fuchs. VW’s current engineering partner and owner of the UK specialist lubricants brand Silkolene.
If an older pack, the contents will be Castrol. Through probably very few of those left in circulation now. The best guide to what is inside, is to compare which oil company’s pack shape your Quantum pack most closely resembles.
 

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Thank you all for your assistance on this .
I have decided to go with Quantum longlife III 5w-30 fully synthetic Oil which is VW 507 rated .
Kind regards Trevor.
Agree with Flintstone and good choice on your part. I always use Quantum Longlife III and if you shop around, can be a lot cheaper than other VW507 oils.
 

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Thanks Guys .
We use Fuchs oil at Work (marine industry ) so I know the brand well.
In the end i managed to get 5 liters on Amazon for less than £33.00 . Pela 6000 arrived yesterday . Oil filter arrived today . I'm just waiting for the oil to arrive .
I like my Yeti too much to skimp on oil !
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Quantum Longlife III if you shop around, can be a lot cheaper than other VW507 oils.
I did get some Quantum a few years ago for the Yeti, when it was still definitely Castrol inside, that was just £5.60/litre for 10 litres. In theory it was originally supposed to be sold through VW dealers, but more independent retailers seem to stock it now. Including a few Ebay sellers whom one suspects have managed to intercept the odd "surplus" container load headed out of Felixstowe.
By contrast the last 20 litres of Castrol Edge FST LL 5w-30 (what a mouthful?) I got from Opie, averaged out at £7.90/litre. The highest I've paid in recent history was £8.50/litre. Although if I go back to Jan 2014, the first pack I bought for the Yeti came in at over £9/litre!
 

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I have a stock of Castrol Edge too. There's about 30 litres of the stuff in the garage and I think it may be breeding . . . .
 
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