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I have a 2013 Yeti (manual, 6 gear, 1.2 TSI) and need to replace the sidelight bulb. SoI checked Halfords bulb finder and it suggested a 501. Not too expensive at £3.50.

However having bought the bulbs, when I took out the one that had blown (easy enough to do) it looks nothing like a 501. It's more like a Phillips PW24W, with a completely different base. Seethe photo below for comparison.

Lots of companies selling bulbs list the 501 as the correct sidelight bulb for my model and year of Yeti, but it clearly doesn't fit, and the PW24W sells for anything between £10 and £18 each and doesn't seem as easy to get hold of.

Have I completely misunderstood? Can the bulbs from Halfords fit somehow into the PW24W base?. Photo shows the bulb Halfords and many other retailers is telling me should fit on the left, and the bulb I took out on the right.

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Is that not the (special) bulb where it has to have the holder removed and a new one fitted when it's replaced?

2013 was the change year is yours the original or facelift?
 

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Is that not the (special) bulb where it has to have the holder removed and a new one fitted when it's replaced?
I dont know. That's why I'm asking here (before I pull apart the holder) ;) I just cant work out why all the retailers say that the bulb they sell should fit when clearly it doesn't. Tp start with I wondered if I could pull out the old round bulb from the black plastic holder shown in the photo and insert one of the 501s.

Mine is a facelift, not an original.

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What are you referring to as "side lights"?
Are you meaning the small lights in the main (upper) headlights or the "Daylight Running Lights" situated in the top half of the lower, inner units?
Certainly from what you have pictured the large bulb is the DRL bulb, and NOT the sidelight, and yes that is a PW24W. (And I doubt Helfrauds will stock it!)
 

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The photo on the right is the bulb and the bulb holder, the bulb should pull out of the holder.
It is a combined DRL & Side light.
A 501 is a different bulb.
Part number N10776301 from info i was given previously on here.
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There appear to be TWO confounding factors at work here:

1) Differences between pre-facelift and Facelift front lights. 2013 was the change over year (as #2 above). So build date is the crucial factor there. Rather than date of first registration, which could be much later. This partially explains why retailers may be listing the "wrong" bulb? If they have assumed 2013 to refer to a pre-FL Yeti?

2) If we are looking for true "sidelight" bulbs or DRL bulbs? As asking for the "wrong" location may understandably deliver the "wrong" answer?

I know most about the pre-FL, as that is what our Yeti is, and I have a damaged unit sitting on a shelf in my garage as a source of spares. The unit is in fact a combined headlamp/DRL/foglamp fitting. Although externally they appear to be separate, as part of the bumper fits over the space between the trapezoidal headlamp and the round/circular DRL and foglamp.
  • 501(W5W) bulb is the correct fitting for the sidelights. Located just 3cm or so below the main/dip H4 headlamp bulb. Accessed through the same large diameter cover on the rear of the unit, as the headlamp bulb.
  • Methinks PW24W is the DRL bulb. One each side. As referenced in #4 by LlaniGraham and pictured by Dutchman in #5. Located in the upper 1/3 of the foglamp circle. Accessed through the smaller diameter cover on the lower part of the rear of the lamp unit. Along with the H7 fog lamp bulb in the lower 2/3 of the circle. I've never had to change one of those in 8 years of ownership. So can't say for sure. but the plug/socket on my spare lamp unit looks like those bulbs pictured by Dutchman might well fit?
However, Tombilson has stated in #3 that his Yeti is a FL version. Are not the DRL bulbs on those are in a strip below the headlamp? Possible LEDs? Sidelights - does the FL Yeti actually have those?

Just checked a 2015 manual in the Library area of this very forum, to be sure of getting a FL version. Unhelpfully there does not appear to be a bulb chart. The replacing thereof suggests "taking the car to specialist garage", to push more work to the dealers.
So over to those who know about the bulbs for those I guess?....
 
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There appear to be TWO confounding factors at work here:

1) Differences between pre-facelift and Facelift front lights. 2013 was the change over year (as #2 above). So build date is the crucial factor there. Rather than date of first registration, which could be much later. This partially explains why retailers may be listing the "wrong" bulb? If they have assumed 2013 to refer to a pre-FL Yeti?

2) If we are looking for true "sidelight" bulbs or DRL bulbs? As asking for the "wrong" location may understandably deliver the "wrong" answer?

I know most about the pre-FL, as that is what our Yeti is, and I have a damaged unit sitting on a shelf in my garage as a source of spares. The unit is in fact a combined headlamp/DRL/foglamp fitting. Although externally they appear to be separate, as part of the bumper fits over the space between the trapezoidal headlamp and the round/circular DRL and foglamp.
  • 501(W5W) bulb is the correct fitting for the sidelights. Located just 3cm or so below the main/dip H4 headlamp bulb. Accessed through the same large diameter cover on the rear of the unit, as the headlamp bulb.
  • Methinks PW24W is the DRL bulb. One each side. As referenced in #4 by LlaniGraham and pictured by Dutchman in #5. Located in the upper 1/3 of the foglamp circle. Accessed through the smaller diameter cover on the lower part of the rear of the lamp unit. Along with the H7 fog lamp bulb in the lower 2/3 of the circle. I've never had to change one of those in 8 years of ownership. So can't say for sure. but the plug/socket on my spare lamp unit looks like those bulbs pictured by Dutchman might well fit?
However, Tombilson has stated in #3 that his Yeti is a FL version. Are not the DRL bulbs on those are in a strip below the headlamp? Possible LEDs? Sidelights???
Just checked a 2015 manual in the Library area of this very forum, to be sure of getting a FL version. Unhelpfully there does not appear to be a bulb chart. The replacing thereof suggests "taking the car to specialist garage", to push more work to the dealers.
So over to those who know about the bulbs for those I guess?....
One of my first queries on here was replacement of the DRL/sidelight bulb.
The sidelight bulb and DRL are the same "one" bulb that has two different brightness.
I had info that that was the bulb of another member.
I never saw my bulb as it was replaced FOC at dealership.
It is accessed through the inner side at the top of the headlight by removing a rubber cover, you need hands the size of a baby to get to it. The mechanic said to remove he pulled the wire and all came out and to put back in held with end of fingers and pushed back in place.
Yes it is on the strip below the headlamp as is the indicator bulb at the side of it, and i think that these can also be LED.
Yes also the bulb is not listed in the handbook.
 

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OP states he has a 2013 car so it will be pre-facelift, like yours.
 

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One thing this thread does show however is not to trust Halfrauds.
Except when buying hand tools from their “Professional” range. Those are excellent. Do have a full understanding of exactly what you want before walking into the shop. Don’t rely on “advice” from staff. They tend to know more about pedal cycles than cars. The former being a bigger source of revenue for them.

Methinks however that in this case, they delivered exactly what Tom asked for - "sidelight bulbs for a 2013 Yeti", i.e. 501 W5W. Albeit for a pre-FL/classic 2013 Yeti, as listed in their own fitting guides.

I also retain doubts about the blown bulb shown on the right of Tom’s pic in #1.
I concur that appears superficially to be a PW24W. Does it not have markings that confirm that? So regardless of what function it is used for (preFL DRL or FL “sidelight” or DRL) that is what is actually needed to replace the blown item.

One like this? -

These do appear to be relatively easily available.
 
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Except when buying hand tools from their “Professional” range. Those are excellent. Do have a full understanding of exactly what you want before walking into the shop. Don’t rely on “advice” from staff. They tend to know more about pedal cycles than cars. The former being a bigger source of revenue for them.

Methinks however that in this case, they delivered exactly what Tom asked for - 501 W5W sidelight bulbs for a 2013 Yeti. Albeit a pre-FL/classic 2013 Yeti, as listed in their own fitting guides.

I also retain doubts about the blown bulb shown on the right of Tom’s pic in #1.
I concur that appears superficially to be a PW24W. Does it not have markings that confirm that? So regardless of what function it is used for (preFL DRL or FL “sidelight” or DRL) that is what is actually needed to replace the blown item.

One like this? -

These do appear to be relatively easily available.
That bulb does look exact.
In relation to Halfords, when my DRL/sidelight bulb failed, i asked at one Skoda dealer for a "sidelight bulb" and took ages for them to come back with a "print out" of two (they said they did not know which one ) and the prices were around £25, ha, i nearly fell through the floor when he said that, it was only later that after researching and speaking on here found out why.
The second dealer (who i had the car from) was to replace it when my car was took in for a different fault but when i took it there they never had the bulb in stock.
 

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Methinks however that in this case, they delivered exactly what Tom asked for - 501 W5W sidelight bulbs for a 2013 Yeti. Albeit a pre-FL/classic 2013 Yeti, as listed in their own fitting guides.
Probably the main reason when you ask "motor factors" a price for a part they ask for your Reg No, (even then there are sometimes differing parts listed) at least it would have identified which model Yeti it was.
 

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Hi everyone. Thanks for all your replies. Apologies for the confusion, but these are indeed daylight running lights, not side lights, and they are housed in the lower section of the headlamp unit next to the indicator light.

I tried pulling the bulb out of the holder as suggested, but it's clearly one piece construction.

And yes, I must have small and nimble hands because I found it very easy to remove through the headlamp beam cover. However this is on the offside, and there's much less room on the nearside.

I have checked and checked again, my 2013 yeti is definitely facelift model. Perhaps it was one of the first batch to be produced?

So going by what looks to be the best fit, Ive ordered a PW24W and will let you know how I get on. Should be here end of the week.

Cheers and thanks again, Tom
 

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Hi everyone. Thanks for all your replies. Apologies for the confusion, but these are indeed daylight running lights, not side lights, and they are housed in the lower section of the headlamp unit next to the indicator light.

I tried pulling the bulb out of the holder as suggested, but it's clearly one piece construction.

And yes, I must have small and nimble hands because I found it very easy to remove through the headlamp beam cover. However this is on the offside, and there's much less room on the nearside.

I have checked and checked again, my 2013 yeti is definitely facelift model. Perhaps it was one of the first batch to be produced?

So going by what looks to be the best fit, Ive ordered a PW24W and will let you know how I get on. Should be here end of the week.

Cheers and thanks again, Tom
Perhaps the two images i shown were just different makes, i have copied the parts diagram Urrell gave me in May 2017 when i had a faulty bulb, the part is listed as "bulb carrier with bulb Day Driving Lights"
The bulb is also a "side light" as it dims (from DRL) when headlights are turned on, or as parking light when indicator stalk left in the L or R position when car locked. The DRL can also be turned off in the maxidot.
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Perhaps the bulb carrier is just the socket which pulls out of the headlamp assembly? I just took few photos showing the headlamp, access via the large circular opening at the back, and the socket which can be pulled out just enough to change the bulb, and which then clicks easily back into position.

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I never seen it (i had a job to even see it in its position and could not get my digits in there to remove it)

In your last photo yes the "bulb carrier with bulb Day Driving Lights" would just fit in there.

Nice pictures for future reference(y)(y)
 

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I never seen it (i had a job to even see it in its position and could not get my digits in there to remove it)

In your last photo yes the "bulb carrier with bulb Day Driving Lights" would just fit in there.

Nice pictures for future reference(y)(y)
So the PW24W arrived and it works fine. Easy to get the bulb back into the holder, but a fiddle to get the holder back into the headlamp unit (surprise surprise).

I was working on the offside light, and could only get my left hand inside: first to find the hole in the unit and then to coax it into position. Didn't have a mirror to guide me so did it all by touch.

The bulb holder has a clip each side and these locate top and bottom and 12 o'clock and 6 o'clock as its being pushed into the unit from behind. However it only fits one way, as there's a protruding piece of plastic on the outside of the holder which, for the offside headlamp, needs to be at 3 o'clock from the perspective of standing behind the headlamp and pushing it forward into position. I don't know whether the nearside is identical, or a mirror image.

Hope this helps anyone who feels up to replacing a daylight running light. As always, easy to get out, less easy to get back!

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That's a great description and potentially worthy of a Yetipedia entry in its own right? (y)
 
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