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Just purchased a 2017 4x4 1.4 L & K model with 17k on the clock. 17” wheels 225 50 15 tyres. They are Nexen branded, a company I have never heard of and don’t look like being capable of dealing with the snow we get in my part of Lancashire. I am considering fitting Michelin Cross Climates in the autumn. Be grateful for any thoughts
 

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15"?? I think you mean 17"

Nexen are a reasonable make of tyre for general use, and highly thought of in the rallying world. Cross Climates seem to be very popular as a all season tyre by many here.
 

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I hadn’t heard of Nexen either but it appears that they are being fitted as OE to VAG models and seem to be getting good reviews. If you google tyre reviews, you will see that Nexen produce winter and cross tyres. See what type you have and check them against the list to see what category they are. I would be inclined to make sure that what you have fitted isn’t vastly inferior before going to the expense of a new set.
 

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What flavour of Nexens do you have fitted ?

They generally seem to get favourable reviews as a mid range tyre.

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Nexen are a South Korean based tyre manufacturer. Like Kumho. With a similar reputation for sound, research and science based tyre ranges, that perform well in the mid price ranges. Been around for as long as Kumho, but only slightly more recently imported into UK.

Think of them like fellow Korean car manufacturing twin-sister companies Kia and Hyundai perhaps? Making very sound, technically bang up to date products, that in quality of manufacture terms, out-Japan many of the Japanese?

I’ve had some in the past, when I couldn’t get hold of Kumhos in the right sizes due to supply shortages. Would consider again. Definitely superior in performance than some of the yin-yang ditchfinder brands at the bottom of the price and longevity / wear rate league.
 

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What flavour of Nexens do you have fitted ?

They generally seem to get favourable reviews as a mid range tyre.

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Nefera SU1. According to Tyre Guru they are a summer tyre. Just wondering if they will do the biz in Pennine snow even with 4x4
 

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Nefera SU1. According to Tyre Guru they are a summer tyre. Just wondering if they will do the biz in Pennine snow even with 4x4
No regular summer tyre will perform as well as a proper snow or even regular winter tyre# on snow. Doesn’t matter how many wheels are driven. E.G. 2 winters ago now, when I easily overtook a Police BMW X5, who was stuck and sliding around in 3” of snow up the unploughed and untreated exit slip road from the A1(M) to the A59. The X5 was on good quality summer tyres. While my RWD-only BMW 3-Series, was wearing its Yokohama winter tyres.

# Just for the record, “Snow tyres” and “Winter tyres” are NOT the same thing. Very different in fact. Important to remember when searching either online or at a fitting depot.
  • Snow tyres are ultra skinny. Normally with a square block tread pattern capable of accepting metal stud inserts. Suitable only if you are journeying to a Scandinavian country in winter. Visually they look similar to motorcycle off-road, mud-plugger, dirt bike tyres. Just slightly closer blocks.
  • Snow tyres with studs fitted give grip levels on pure ice (e.g. A frozen lake surface) that feels like you are on rails.
  • Winter tyres are usually available in similar ranges of diameters and widths to summer tyres. Perhaps a few less sizes due to low demand in UK for some particular sizes. Winters have very different rubber compounds and tread patterns to either Summer or Snow tyres. Often featuring many more ultra thin sipes cut into the tread blocks, to grip slippery surfaces like snow, ice, slush, and ordinary wet roads. The latter being particularly useful in UK.
  • Due to higher silica content than summer tyres, they also tend to last quite well.
  • In UK what you would look for are “Winter” tyres.
  • Or Cross-climate / all-season tyres of course. Those seem a good compromise for UK winters and summers.
 

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Covered almost 4000m so far on a set of 225 50 17 Nokian WRA4 , ive had a lot of tyres on a lot of cars but these things are superb , i plan to run them all year round , recent week in France , temps there were mid teens , there was no change whatsoever in their performance .
Paid £220 for the 4 from Tyreleader but they have gone up a little since Tyre Nokian 225/50 R17 94V DOT 2016 | WR A4 | TyreLeader.co.uk
I was that impressed with them i bought a set of them in 19 inch for our F11 5 series & they transformed the car from the Continentals that came off
 

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No regular summer tyre will perform as well as a proper snow or even regular winter tyre# on snow. Doesn’t matter how many wheels are driven. E.G. 2 winters ago now, when I easily overtook a Police BMW X5, who was stuck and sliding around in 3” of snow up the unploughed and untreated exit slip road from the A1(M) to the A59. The X5 was on good quality summer tyres. While my RWD-only BMW 3-Series, was wearing its Yokohama winter tyres.

# Just for the record, “Snow tyres” and “Winter tyres” are NOT the same thing. Very different in fact. Important to remember when searching either online or at a fitting depot.
  • Snow tyres are ultra skinny. Normally with a square block tread pattern capable of accepting metal stud inserts. Suitable only if you are journeying to a Scandinavian country in winter. Visually they look similar to motorcycle off-road, mud-plugger, dirt bike tyres. Just slightly closer blocks.
  • Snow tyres with studs fitted give grip levels on pure ice (e.g. A frozen lake surface) that feels like you are on rails.
  • Winter tyres are usually available in similar ranges of diameters and widths to summer tyres. Perhaps a few less sizes due to low demand in UK for some particular sizes. Winters have very different rubber compounds and tread patterns to either Summer or Snow tyres. Often featuring many more ultra thin sipes cut into the tread blocks, to grip slippery surfaces like snow, ice, slush, and ordinary wet roads. The latter being particularly useful in UK.
  • Due to higher silica content than summer tyres, they also tend to last quite well.
  • In UK what you would look for are “Winter” tyres.
  • Or Cross-climate / all-season tyres of course. Those seem a good compromise for UK winters and summers.
Thank you. Very helpful. I’m sure cross climates are the best compromise.
 

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Cross Climates are very well respected as a premium all season tyre.

I run Nokian Weatherproof all seasons, which lean a bit more towards snow bias - mostly because i was looking for something with a mud friendly tread for light off roading.

Just got a set of Vredestein Quatrac Pro all seasons for the spare 17" wheels to see how they compare :)

I also have a set of Continental TS860 winters on steel rims specifically to take snow chains for our snowboarding adventures to the Alps.

Me - a rubber fetish ?

That said, tyrereviews.co.uk is a great 'specialist' site for those who like such things, the chap there does a variety of well presented reviews himself, plus linking to tests from other sources and public feedback.

This is for you N Fera Su1...



I think a few members in here have used the Nexen N Blue 4 Season as a mid range option.


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I can personally recommend Continental TS860 tyres for winter use, have driven them in Scandanavia and they were very confidence-inspiring. I've just bought a second set of wheels for my Yeti and will be fitting the TS860's onto them for use next winter.
On my wife's non-Yeti we have Michelin CrossClimates fitted and IMO they're a great all-year tyre.

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Me - a rubber fetish ?
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As bad as mine, with THREE sets of wheels and tyres for the BMW (4 18” with a motley assortment of ditchfinder tyres that the car came wearing when I bought it. 4 17” with Uniroyal summer tyres. 4 17” with Yokohama winters.)
Two full sets of wheels and tyres for the Yeti.

Mind you, when we take one of the rally cars out of the driver’s shed for a competitive event, several sets of wheels and tyres come with us in the van. With several more sets left behind in the shed.

- For gravel events. Up to 6 rear tyres on wheels. In wet or dry tread patterns and compounds. Four or sometimes more front tyres on wheels, with tread/compounds suited to wet or dry conditions. We use wider tyres and wheels on the back of a RWD historic Avenger than the fronts. Been known to destroy a pair of rears in under 20 miles of hot gravel in Kielder. With ability to buy more during the course of an event from the tyre suppliers in the service area. Should the need arise.

- For tarmac events. 4 pure slicks in soft compound. 4 pure slicks in medium-hard compound. 4 Intermediates (essentially medium-soft compound slicks with a tread pattern moulded in). 4 full wets, not unlike road car tyres with lots of tread and more important, water clearing grooves. Plus two or three heavy duty Stanley knives in my Navigator’s bag. So if out on the inter’s and it starts to get more damp, we can quickly double the number of sipe cuts in the tread blocks, by the side of the road, between timed stages. (Done that several times in Isle of Man. Very effective.)
 
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I had Perellis on the back and a budget (that was the tyre the dealership had fitted) on the front when i bought the car and in the snow that year it was on par with the worst car i have tried to drive on snow (yes i know its 2 wheel drive and probably summer tyres) even just an inch of it.
I have got Nexen FRERA SU1 all round now and even though we have not had the same amount of snow, on the occasions we did they performed 100% better that the previous tyres.
 

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Are you sure the car had only done 17k? To need to replace all the original tyres by that low a mileage is very unlikely. Fronts should last 25+k, and rears 45+k at least? My Greenline went back to the lease company with all the original tyres, and the fronts never swapped to rear at 45k and at least 5k still on the front tyres left.
Or are you saying the car was delivered new on these Nexen tyres? Seems very unlikely as the L&K will have had a known make like my 2017 SEL Drive which came on Goodyears and still have 4mm tread minimum at over 25k on those tyres. (Car is at 36k but I have used winters for last 2 years)
 

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Are you sure the car had only done 17k? To need to replace all the original tyres by that low a mileage is very unlikely. Fronts should last 25+k, and rears 45+k at least? My Greenline went back to the lease company with all the original tyres, and the fronts never swapped to rear at 45k and at least 5k still on the front tyres left.
Or are you saying the car was delivered new on these Nexen tyres? Seems very unlikely as the L&K will have had a known make like my 2017 SEL Drive which came on Goodyears and still have 4mm tread minimum at over 25k on those tyres. (Car is at 36k but I have used winters for last 2 years)
I know you are replying to OP but in my case.
When i bought the car just under 3 years old and 19,000 miles (i think)
The Perillis on the front of mine were about less than 3mm and that is why they put new budgets on front.
And the rears (Perillis)were gone round the 30,000 mark (got all info in car)
 

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Are you sure the car had only done 17k? To need to replace all the original tyres by that low a mileage is very unlikely.
The OP did not give the depth of tread, he was saying that they did not look capable of use in the snow!
 

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Ken3966 I see you have moved Leeds to Germany again. Are you still in Leeds, and do you post when out of the Country? I expect ken will have a theory but perhaps Admin need to get it sorted.

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